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Macbeth's remorseful response to the murder compared to Lady Macbeth's composed demeanor portrays their opposite reactions to the situation. Following Duncan's death, Macbeth is "afraid to think what [he] has done", showing a sense of denial to his actions (2.2.66). Macbeth demonstrates his fear and disbelief of what he is capable of. His reluctance to accept that he committed murder is evident when he refuses to "think what [he] has done". Macbeth also depicts a sense of regret about his actions when questioning if the entire ocean will "wash [the] blood clean from [his] hand" (2.2.78). Macbeth's inability to wipe the blood from his hands further portrays the remorseful view of his actions. He allows his conscience to take over, launching a wave of regret over murdering Duncan. However, Lady Macbeth responds in the opposite direction as Macbeth. She feels no remorse over the murder, and is more concerned about the organization of the plan, rather than her morals. While Macbeth demonstrates regret when he can't remove the blood from his hands, Lady Macbeth simply states that "a little water clears [them] of this deed" (2.2.86). Her nonchalant behavior about Duncan's blood on her hands shows her lack of guilt over what she did. The fact that she believes the murder can be erased by a little water portrays her view of the murder as insignificant, and also demonstrates her ability to block out her conscience, unlike Macbeth, who morally struggles with the decision he makes.
I agree with Gaby's assessment of their opposing reactions and how Macbeth is regretful of his actions and is unable to function after the death, while lady macebth calmly goes about finshing their plan and distancng themselves from the crime. Macbeth's reaction shows how Macbeth didn't want to actually kill Duncan, but how his wife convinced him to even though it went against his morals. Lady Macbeth's reaction is immoral and ruthless, as she shows little care to Duncan's death and how her husband is traumatized by killing him.
I also agree with Gaby's analysis of the varying reactions of Lady Macbeth and Macbeth concerning Duncan's murder. While Macbeth is utterly distraught about his recent action, Lady Macbeth seems to shrug it off and urges Macbeth "to think not of it deeply," regarding his retelling of the event and his angst that he tries to portray to his wife (II.ii.41). Lady Macbeth's thoughts and actions in this particular scene coincide with her earlier beliefs of how a man should act, with ambition and the "illness that should attend it, which she demonstrates when she eventually gives up on Macbeth and takes the daggers back to the room herself (I.v.20). If Macbeth were to have such ambition and the ruthlessness to complete his task quickly, efficiently and without any hesitation or remorse he would fit into Lady Macbeths characterization of what a man should be like. Going back to Gaby's original point, Lady Macbeth is overall much less morally sound and is willing to whatever it takes to get what she, or in this case her husband, wants, while Macbeth seems to be held back by his conscience and knowledge of what is right and wrong.
I agree with Gaby's response. Macbeth does have an inner conflict about what his response should be to the murder of Duncan. While Lady Macbeth sees the advantage in the murder. She has no regret over what Macbeth has done and tries to convince him that it was not a bad thing, but actually a great thing. Macbeth regrets his actions nonstop from the point of the murder all though the end of Act 2. He traumatizes himself, and he thinks he is to blame, when in actuality, if not for his wife's pressures, the murder would never have happened.
The difference between Lady Macbeths and Macbeths response to the murder is that while Macbeth feels very guilty, Lady Macbeth is glad that the action is done. Macbeth after the murder "[can]not pronounce 'amen'" because the word is "stuck in [his] throat" (2.2.42,3). Macbeth understands that what he has done is considered a sin and a crime. Lady Macbeth on the other hand tells him to not think about it so much or else "it will make [them] mad" (2.2.45). While "every noise appalls" Macbeth, his wife calls him out on his weakness and tells him that he "unbends [his] noble strength to think so brainsickly of things" (2.2.76,59-60). Macbeth is afraid that at any moment someone is going to call him out on his actions, but Lady Macbeth flat out tells him that he is weak to think like that. When Lady Macbeth gets back from returning the knife that Macbeth refuses to return becasue he does not want to "go no more", Lady Macbeth tells him that "[her] hands are of [his] color, but [she] shame[s] to wear a heart so white" (2.2.65, 82-83). Macbeth is afraid to step back into the room where he killed Duncan, but Lady Macbeth tells him she is ashamed of him because of how guilty he is feeling. Macbeth and Lady Macbeth differ on their reactions after the murder becasue Macbeth cannot get it out of his mind, while Lady Macbeth is glad that the task is done.
I agree with Olivia's opinion of the difference between Lady Macbeth and Macbeth's response to King Duncan's murder. She uses good evidence to support Macbeth's remorse, and also to prove Lady Macbeth's satisfaction. Olivia does a good job of indicating Macbeth's apparent fear on the subject and the sheer contrast to Lady Macbeth's ease and contempt atmosphere. The only criticism I have is in the last half of the paragraph when Olivia mixes the names of Duncan and Macbeth. "Lady Macbeth gets back from returning the knife that *Duncan* refuses to return", and "*Duncan* is afraid to step back into the room where he killed Duncan". Other than these two slips, I fully agree with Olivia's paragraph.
I also agree with Olivia’s interpretation of the text and Bella’s analysis of Olivia’s response. Olivia addresses a major theme of the play, masculinity, while also giving us insight into her argument. She supports her explanation with many quotes that connect to her argument. I agree that Macbeth’s hesitance while murdering Duncan suggests that he wants to get it over with, without of course getting caught. Lady Macbeth’s attitude however is completely the opposite and is the motivating force behind Duncan’s murder. Lady Macbeth constantly points out Macbeth’s weakness and lack of masculinity and, “[she] shame[s] to wear a heart so white" (2.2.65, 82-83). Olivia clearly makes a distinction between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth’s reactions to the murder of Duncan while backing her thoughts up with evidence.
Olivia, I think you wrote a very strong response using good textual evidence and quotations. I agree with your thesis and I think you stated it very well. It seemed like you re-told the plot instead of using evidence from the text to support your thesis. I felt that you might have been able to use a couple less quotes because they were a little overwhelming. I also noticed that you used some quotations that are hard to understand that you don't explain, like "While 'every noise appalls' Macbeth… You don't go on to explain what that means and for someone who hasn't read the book they would not know what the whole sentence is suggesting. I think you use good quotes, but with a text like Macbeth shorter quotes, i feel, are better because they are easier to understand. Good job!
Macbeth’s response to the murder of Duncan and that of his Lady’s are near opposite. Macbeth, who stares at the blood on his hands and murmurs “This is a sorry sight,” seems genuinely shocked at the act he has just committed (2.2.28). His wife, however, immediately responds by chastising Macbeth for his speech, and that it was “a foolish thought” (2.2.29). In this interaction alone, it is easy to see how these two characters feel about the deed they have conspired. After the assassination Macbeth is noticeably shaken, so much so that he cannot even issue a prayer and “could not say ‘Amen’ ” when “[he] had most need of blessing” (2.2.38-42). His guilt over the death of his friend and ruler, by his own hand, was so great that holy words of reverence stuck in his throat, a suresign that he has committed an unholy act. Paranoia also runs rampant in Macbeth’s mind, as he claims that “[he] heard a voice cry ‘sleep no more, Macbeth does murder sleep’ ” a cry his wife failed to hear and one that seems to foreshadow some tragedy in his future. The final indication that Macbeth feels what he has done is wrong is in his own words, “Will all great neptune’s ocean wash this blood clean from my hand?” (2.2.75) Macbeth answers his own question, with “No” and accepts that he will never be free from the troubling thoughts of this night. The Lady, in stark contrast to Macbeths response, is cold and unemotional once Duncan is dead. She even mocks Macbeth for his emotional instability remarking, “My hands are of your colour; but I shame to wear a heart so white.” (2.2.79) Not only does she seem completely un-phased over their murder of the king, but she ridicules her husband for not being so. She doesn’t understand Macbeth’s mental trauma, merely stating that “a little water clear [them] of this deed.” (2.2.83)
I agree with the fact that Macbeth and Lady Macbeth react in opposite ways. Adding onto the point about guilt, Macbeth also says that he interrupts the "innocent sleep" (2.2.48). Innocence usually relates to children, so saying that he interrupted the innocent sleep, compares killing Duncan to killing a child, which makes Macbeth feel more guilty. Macbeth also refers to sleep as "great nature's second course" (2.2.51). The fact that Macbeth kills nature's main action, makes Macbeth even more guilty for killing Duncan because he disrupts the flow of the society.
Macbeth and Lady Macbeth displayed polar opposite reactions to the murder of Duncan; Macbeth was extremely paranoid while Lady Macbeth was calm and collected. Macbeth’s highly-strung emotions became clear when, after the murder he said, “I am afraid to think what I have done” (2.2, 66-67). At this point, Macbeth’s conscience and after thought had clouded his mind, causing him to be nervous and apprehensive. His conscience was also apparent when he described the servants dreams, saying that he “could not say ‘amen’ when they did say ‘God bless us’” for the word was “stuck in his throat” (2.2, 38-40, 44). Macbeth realized that his actions were criminal, and therefore could not properly say the word “amen”, for he had felt guilty. In contrast to Macbeth, Lady Macbeth was rather unconcerned. In response to Macbeth’s story regarding the servants dreams, she said “consider it not so deeply”, then later said “These deeds must not be thought after these ways; so, it will make us mad” (2.2, 41, 45-46). Lady Macbeth believes that the murder must be disregarded, for it will otherwise drive both her and Macbeth crazy. Here lies the fundamental difference in each reaction. Lady Macbeth looked to forget the murder while Macbeth’s conscience would not let him.
I agree with Hector's assessment of Macbeth and Lady Macbeth's reactions to the murder. He is spot on pointing out Macbeth's paranoia and anxiety, the same with Lady Macbeth's cool sense of dignity. The use of quotations was good and it helped to further prove his point. The point of Macbeth being unable to say 'amen' was crucial and Hector did a good job of highlighting it in his paragraph. I fully agree with his points.
I also agree with Hector's analysis. While Macbeth was "paranoid" and "highly-strung", Lady Macbeth remained "Calm and Collected." He does well with his use of the text to support his arguments, pulling out specific words from the text like 'Amen' for even deeper analysis. One point I think that Hector skipped over that is important is the fact that Macbeth was the one who actually committed the crime, and Lady Macbeth herself admits that she could not have done it as Duncan looked too much like her father. This sheds insight to how Lady Macbeth's mind works, and leads one to believe that dispite all the open brutality and cruelty shown in her words, she still would not be willing to act apon them.
After the murder of Duncan, the emotional response of Macbeth is shown to be very different on many levels to that of Lady Macbeth's reaction as supported by the text. With the return of Macbeth to Lady Macbeth from the recent murder, Macbeth shows the horrified state that he is in through what he says to Lady Macbeth and how he says it. In comparison, when Lady Macbeth meets Macbeth, she is able to read his fear and still show no worry or guilt of anything that has happened. Instead of sharing Macbeth's feelings of shock and remorse, she shames him, "…How easy it is then! Your constancy Hath left you unattended," about how his tough, ruthless mind-set has left him replaced by the mind-set of a coward (2.2 87-88). Macbeth begins to predict the near future as a disgraceful and even a despicable sight because he believes two of Duncan's men awoke at the time of the murder, at a time when Macbeth thought "I had most need of blessing, and "Amen" Stuck in my throat" (2.2 43-44). Macbeth shows his fear and guilt of getting caught is so deep after the murder, he couldn't even give an "Amen" to a simple blessing which may have made him feel a little better about the situation, whereas Lady Macbeth decides to "Consider it not so deeply," and concludes that "These deeds must not be thought After these ways; so, it will make us mad" (2.2 41;45-46). Although Macbeth is having intense feelings of distress and anxiety about the murder, as seen in the preceding passage, Lady Macbeth is, in contrast, showing no compassion towards him and is instead shaming him because he is not as tough as she wanted him to be.
I agree with Jolon’s analysis of Macbeth and Lady Macbeth’s reactions following the murder. His assessment that Macbeth had “feelings of shock and remorse” while Lady Macbeth “shames him because he is not as tough as she wanted him to be” is accurate. However, Jolon could have analyzed the text rather than summarizing. He uses words such as “after”, “when”, “with the return of Macbeth”, which show synopsis rather than evaluation. Also, the phrases “is having”, “is showing”, and “is shaming” can be fixed by simply conjugating the verbs to “has”, “shows” and “shames”. Nevertheless, I agree with Jolon’s points. To further prove Macbeth’s remorse, I would have used the quote: “I am afraid to think what I have done” (2.2 L. 66).
I agreed with Jolon's interpretation of the text. It showed an understanding of Shakespeare's language and good analysis of the text. The constant referring back to the text, sometimes even mid-sentence, clearly supported your argument and strengthened your opinions. Although there were many quotes to back up your arguments, I felt that sometimes they were just there, there was sometimes no specific analysis of dialogue from the text. Because of this, some parts, like when talking about the "deeds [which] must not be though after these ways," seemed to just synopsize situations (2.2 45-46) Similarly, although there is context enough to clearly envision the situation, there was an unfair trade with quote analysis.
Lady Macbeth and Macbeth's responses to the murder of Duncan clearly demonstrate their difference in character. Their opinions are vastly opposite, while Macbeth is remorseful, Lady Macbeth is almost shameless. Macbeth shows guilt for the crime he has committed when he speaks to his lady; "This is a sorry sight" (2.2.28). He views the scene as wretched; a horrible sight. She strongly disagrees with his guilt by responding; "a foolish thought, to say a sorry sight" (2.2.29). The emotion Macbeth reveals after the sin was committed shows his presence of conscience. His abundance of self-reproach reveals his regret for the act he committed, leaving him almost apologetic. Lady Macbeth brushes off the act as something that simply had to be done. She thinks that "These deeds must not be thought/ After these ways" because "it will make us mad" (2.2.45). Once again differing from his Lady's thoughts, Macbeth is "afraid to think what [he] has done" (2.2.66). When Macbeth says he will "Look on 't again [he] dare not", it portrays him as shameful and regretful of the crime he recently committed. The difference in Macbeth and his lady's response to Duncan's murder obviously portray them as opposite characters. Lady Macbeth's lack of remorse evidently stands out from her husband's shameful feelings.
I agree with Elena's point. I also feel that these events show a difference in character that could be more explicitly defined later in the play. Also, Lady Macbeth seems to want the crown more than Macbeth. While Macbeth shows some conscience to the matter, Lady Macbeth has no remorse for her thoughts. Elena's points (2.2.28) and (2.2.29) not only show her pint, but also prove mine. Elena outlines the character traits in her paragraph well, and her evidence, in my opinion, are sound.
I think this paragraph is good, and I agree.
Macbeth wants to rise to power and Lady Macbeth wants to help him reach that level of authority that Macbeth is destined to ascend to. Macbeth, being the first one to hear the proclamation from the witches calling him king, goes through with his plan to kill Duncan but his resulting emotions are of repentance rather than the thrill of being closer to kingship, "I heard a voice cry, "Sleep no more! Macbeth does murther sleep" -the innocent sleep"(2.2.33-34). His response to murder sounds like a traumatic experience where as Lady Macbeth tries to give him some "props" for his act of trying to take the throne. She seems to tell Macbeth that what he's done is good and it has proven how much of a real man he is; "You do unbend your noble strength, to think So brainsickly of things. Go, get some water"(2.2.59). She wants to turn the situation around and say that Macbeth just needs to relax and not waste his time on matters that he faces with himself but rather accept his actions and be proud of them. She takes murder and presents an idea that murder is not a big deal if the ends justify the means, which in this case are resulting in a high government position. She later admits to having mixed feelings but nonetheless she accepts her and Macbeth's actions and decides conceal her shame; "My hands are of your color, but I shame to wear a heart so white" (2.2.82). Which leads the Macbeth's to have similar feelings of regret towards murder but Lady Macbeth with a feeling of regret, covers it up so that Macbeth can come to terms with his actions. Her hope is for Macbeth to embrace it and move towards the throne as she has told him.
Manny mentions an interesting point in his topic sentence when he focuses on Macbeth's hunger for power, rather than looking at the very obvious doubts he's feeling towards the assassination of his own King. Rather than looking at the cons of killing Duncan, he points out that Macbeths need to be king could very well outweigh all of the consequences that would arise from the murder. However, Macbeth says, "This is a sorry sight" (2.2 27). He does respond with grief and regret but his wife, Lady Macbeth, attempts to drive the idea out of his head. She says to her husband, "A foolish thought to say a sorry sight" (2.2 29). I agree that Lady Macbeth is more of a motivator and is trying to play the role of what she considers to be a good encouraging wife, but it is far more complex than that. Manny closes in on an interesting view of Macbeth and his ambition which ends up being his final decision when it comes to killing Duncan. Manny makes clear points for both sides, and the arguments are obvious and legitimate.
Emmanuel's analysis is accurate in depicting Macbeth's and Lady Macbeth's responses to duncan's murder. I agree that Instead of rejoicing his soon-to-be kingship, Macbeth had remorse for his horrible deed. Macbeth cries, "I'll go no more. I am afraid to think what I have done. Look on 't again I dare not" (2.2.65-8). Murdering Duncan was a traumatic experience for Macbeth, and he refuses and denies to relive the moment. Lady Macbeth, on the other hand, was excited about what Macbeth had coming his way. Emmanuel's point on her congratulating Macbeth is authentic, and showed her cold-blooded side. She was proud of Macbeth, and justified his action by stating that murder was not a big deal. Lady Macbeth was more mentally stable than Macbeth when Duncan was murdered.
Lady Macbeth is nonchalant and proud of Macbeth’s murder of the king, while Macbeth feels regret and is internally disgusted with himself for performing the murder. After the murder, Macbeth believes the murder was a “’sorry sight’” while Lady Macbeth disagrees with and replies “’ a foolish thought, to say a sorry sight (2.2 28-29). Macbeth initially feels remorse of his actions, but Lady Macbeth believes the deeds needed to be done and “’these deeds must not be thought after these ways; so, it will make us mad’” (2.2 45-46). Lady Macbeth tries to convince and influence Macbeth like she has done before that the deed was dark, but it was necessary to do in the end and that Macbeth should not dwell on his actions because what he did was right in the end. Additionally, Lady Macbeth is nonchalant about the murder. She says “’consider it not so deeply’” when Macbeth expresses his grievances, and continues to comfort Macbeth by saying ‘”worthy thane’”, and ending her sentences with small influences to relax and not think of the murder as a big deal (2.2 41, 58). On the contrary, Macbeth feels damned and remorseful of the murder. He says “’[he] could not say ‘Amen’ when they did say ‘God bless us’ before his murder because he felt the actions he was about to do were wrong and had no right for receiving God’s blessing (2.2 39-40). In the end, Macbeth says “’I am afraid to think what I have done. Look on ‘t again I dare not” (2.2 66-67)’”. After Lady Macbeth’s constant commands to relax and not obsessed over the situation, Macbeth still is not convinced morally, and believes the murder was not right and he deserves to suffer in his actions. It is easy for Lady Macbeth to tell Macbeth to not worry because she did not perform the murder, but since Macbeth did murder Duncan, he feels that he crossed the borders of man and had let himself become a barbarian, thus deserving no blessing from anyone.
I agree with Mia's analysis of the differences between Macbeth's and Lady Macbeth's reactions. Lady Macbeth criticizes Macbeth's remorse, proclaiming it "'A foolish thought, to say a sorry sight'" (2.2 29). Mia did a lovely job quoting the play to prove her point and synthesized the two reactions, as opposed to have half of the paragraph solely about Macbeth's reaction and the other half about Lady Macbeth's reaction. Mia's point that Lady Macbeth did not actually kill Duncan herself is a valid one. She did not do the deed herself so she does not feel the same guilt as Macbeth does.
After King Duncan is murdered, Macbeth is distressed and regrets his actions, while Lady Macbeth is convinced the killing was right and feels no remorse. Macbeth feels wretched knowing he murdered the King and laments his crime saying to Lady Macbeth, "This is a sorry sight" (2.2, 28). Lady Macbeth responds, "A foolish thought, to say a sorry sight", confirming her belief that murdering the King was justified (2.2, 29). Macbeth recalls the murder, and believes he heard one of the King's men say, '"Sleep no more! Macbeth does murder sleep"' (2.2, 47-48). Macbeth dwells on the horror of the killings and is not able to rid his mind of the terrible crime he has just committed. Later, Lady Macbeth says "These deeds must not be thought After these ways; so, it will make us mad" (2.2, 45-46). Lady Macbeth tells her husband to stop thinking about the crime he has just committed because it will only make him crazy. Macbeth is deeply troubled by his actions, "I am afraid to think what I have done", he is horrified that he was responsible for murdering "the innocent sleep" of men who trusted him (2.2, 66; 2.2, 48).
Anisa's response contrasts Macbeth's remorse with Lady Macbeth's gladness aptly. She says Macbeth is shaken by guilt because he murdered Duncan, and "every sound appalls [him]," in other words, he is paranoid and afraid the crime was witnessed by someone else (2.2, 76)his however, his wife has no sympathy for the guilt he feels. One coukd enhance this already strong argument by pointing out thatin fact, Lady Macbeth even downplays the gravity of "this deed" by urgin Macbeth to put the act out of his mind, for "the sleeping and the dead are but as pictures" (2.2, 86, 69-70). Lady Macbeth feels mo remorse because she did not commit the murder.
Anisa proves clearly what the contrasting responses are from Macbeth and his wife. I think Brooke brings up the interesting point of why they react differently. Lady Macbeth does not regret murdering Duncan because she did not commit the crime, and therefore can't feel the same remorse Macbeth does. Macbeth says "Look on ’t again I dare not" when Lady Macbeth suggests he go back into Duncan's room (2.2 67). This reply demonstrates his guilt because it shows that he doesn't want to see his awful action. Macbeth takes full responsibility for the murder, which is clear by the way he says "To know my deed…" (2.2 93). Lady Macbeth was the driving force behind the whole plot, yet Macbeth blames only himself for the murder. The difference in reactions between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth is due to the fact that Lady Macbeth didn't perform the actual kill and doesn't feel the deep regret Macbeth does. Macbeth feels more remorse and reacts differently from Lady Macbeth because he was the one who physically murdered Duncan.
Macbeth and Lady Macbeth have opposing reaction's to the murder of Duncan Macbeth has committed. While Macbeth can't stop thinking and feeling guilt about the murder, Lady Macbeth wants nothing more than to just move on, and is in fact pleased that her husband followed through with the murder. Macbeth feels as though the murder "is a sorry sight" while Lady Macbeth completely disagrees saying that is "a foolish thought" (2.2.28,29). Macbeth is ashamed of his deplorable act while Lady Macbeth thinks that Macbeth is simply wasting time worrying about his noble deed, because it will only, "make [them] mad" (2.2.46). Still Macbeth is "afraid to think what [he has] done," regretting his evil action, also proving that he has a higher set of morals after all, compared to his wife (2.2.66). Macbeth believes he has just killed the "innocent sleep" while Lady Macbeth thinks nothing of it, keeping her calm and content demeanor (2.2.48). When Lady Macbeth tells Macbeth "You do unbend your noble strength to think so brain sickly of things," she is saying that the more Macbeth worries about the murder the more he reverses everything he just worked for (2.2.59,60). She believes Macbeth just gained noble strength and finally was able to match his ambition with ruthlessness but now is quickly sinking back into his old habits of kindness and softness. Throughout the whole scene, from the blood on Macbeth's hands to the handling of the daggers, Lady Macbeth acts nonchalantly and easily, showing no remorse over the death of Duncan, while Macbeth is unable stop feeling guilty for the sickly deed and is nowhere near as satisfied as his ruthless wife is.
I agree with Sterling's ideas that their reactions are opposites of each other, one feels guilty while the other breezes through as if nothing happened. Sterling does a good job of emphasizing how Lady Macbeth criticizes Macbeth for his feelings of remorse and guilt, telling Macbeth that he has "the eye of childhood", criticizing his squeamish feelings toward the murder (2.2.70). When Lady Macbeth tells Macbeth to wash his hands, he replies that not even the whole ocean can "wash this blood clean" while Lady Macbeth doesn't preoccupy herself with the blood because she didn't perform the act herself (2.2.88). Their opposing reactions to the murder demonstrate the difference in their mindsets even as husband and wife. Lady Macbeth takes control of the situation acting as the man as Macbeth himself shows his softness when he regrets the murder. Lady Macbeth even takes over the rest of the job as she asks Macbeth to "give [her] the daggers" (2.2.60).